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Two societies in America, polluted and violent..and those that are not polluted or violent.

by "nms" <nms@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 27, 2007 at 09:31 AM

there are now two societies , polluted and not polluted and those 
distinctly unique  societies provide two distinct levels of quality of 
life.Its often the same for violence, those that choose to stay around it
or 
have to stay around it and those that live free from it. What has lawyers 
and politicians and media done to protect people from harm ? Mostly
nothing. 
If your a college student and want to know why these two issues affect 
millions mostly in the negative but why more isn't done to protect people 
just read on. If you don't care why, don't choose to go to school in this 
tension or retire in this dysfucnation disillusioned dangerous environment

or live a life of meanspirited denial that so many people choose for 
themselves often because they can't help it or can't afford to move.
 Remember if you want to retire or go to school or live here, as what
about 
dsyfunction do you really want to bring into your life. Trust me choose
the 
right choices and ask yourself what kind of people who are left in cities 
with much violence and pollution? Don't choose to work in it or bring up 
families here. If gov and leaders dont' care to protect you, I hope you
look 
to what I saw and higher power to help you decide to make better choices 
then what I made. Our leaders depend on jobs not always the best choices
for 
our people. Its up to you to protect yourself and families for better
future 
even if politicians don't .
 Fight for clean air and to get reporters care about important things or 
don't buy their hyped products instead of worrying about Paris Hilton. If 
you want to know why politicians ignore freedom or the best choices,
simply 
put its for jobs. Remember don't work in polluted or violence societies, 
don't buy homes, don't go to school and do the right things, No one here
is 
going to protect you .You must have to choose the right choices and depend

on who is telling you the truth or promoting an agenda that will protect 
you. US is becoming a meaner , society coopting sane and right choices for

the benefits of jobs and control for oil and energy and polluters . Many 
people are going to have to be victims.don't choose these places ever
.....



> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "nms" <nms@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups: alt.lawyers,talk.environment
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:18 AM
> Subject: EPA, Reporters and Politicians : Pollution NOT a CONCERN
>
>
>> The dangers of pollution while fairly well documented , is still not
>> talked
>> about in major press or in areas most pronounced. Constantly the same
>> people
>> tout areas that are worse as a justification that the area in question
is
>> ok. The studies to show more cause and affect are not followed up by
>> reporters...
>>
>>
>> Between crime and pollution , many people live a life of hell and fears
>> from
>> violent criminals
>> cancers, asthma, respiratory illness and heart disease  auto immune
>> deficency and conditions that are avoidable but
>> US politicians don't want to protect people because we then could not 
>> have
>> the Mercks sets up to treat people after they are poisoned or jail and
>> court
>> systems in place to employ tens of thousands of people from  policies 
>> that
>> ignore the reasons for violence and pollution  Allot of this is
avoidable
>> but our press is coopted and many people are simply too lazy to think
>> independently from tv press and newspapers. We actually slowly default
to
>> a
>> dumbed down more dysfunctional society when trust is not derived from
>> freedom of information or truth , and  our leaders and reporters ignore

>> truth and  we actually breed
>> people who grow up with suspicion and contempt from the information
that
>> we
>> get. News is often coopted, to the richest companies that control the 
>> flow
>> of information and make  Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan more important
>> then
>> sustainable energy  in order to not tell people the consequences. .or 
>> keep
>> control for the energy companies trillions , much of it paid off to
>> politicians. Fixing and gambling in pro sports is another conspiracy of
>> lost
>> values when people decide, why they should emmulate  our politicians
and
>> news people who ignore crime, poverty and pollution for the control of
>> almighty dollar.and ultimately are silent in doing the right things.
>> Slowly
>> we have more people doing dysfunctional things and our society slowly
>> degenerates to the richest answers instead of the best . We stop being
a
>> democracy and end up becoming a society like Monarchy. Look around at
our
>> values.. Kimmel and cynicism s our kind of mean spirited comedian,
people
>> who take drug
>> enhancers are our role models, politicians have to be virtually
>> millionaires
>> to get elected and rap is often the type of music people think is
cool.We
>> have more murders then countries that have war... all hypocritical and
>> ignored in our so called free press. Its very scary to grow up with
>> warning
>> level air or few days with good air and with 1000s of murderers who
were
>> never caught lving next to
>> ya..The people who are affected are naturally not going to be the most
>> loving or trusting either and thats no accident.. but why should people

>> in
>> the US care about those most affected. We just
>> coopt to the richest control for decisive answers to questions they 
>> decide
>> which is important not people.
> We are constantly encouraging people to not do the right things, making 
> the
> wrong decisions and care less about striving for concern and love and
> values.
>>
>> policy makers and reporters  have decided illness and prevention is not
>> important
>>
>> Environmental disaster predicted for NE ( been writing about this for 
>> four
>> years)
>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>
>> I  get up evryday and can't believe what I am breathin.. the air is so
>> often
>> like soup..
>>>> like I am in some kind of nightmare or minefield in a war  and fog
and
>>>> one only has to compare
>>>> to
>>>> other less polluted  cities and GET THIS to  the health of people in
>>>> clean air to see the
>>>> contrasts  if  people really wanted to see objective facts. but with
>>>> report and report on pollution out there ,seldom does any mass media
go
>>>> over the results like they are concerned to the coverage of a paris
>>>> hilton might get.. The public can't get too hyped about changes for
>>>> global warming or pollution if our politicians and reporters don't
care
>>>> about its affects.    Over and over
>>>> again people and businesses who live in polluted cities and streets
die
>>>> and lose their health to not a mysterious heart disease and cancer
but
>>>> more likely smog induced pollution  and illnesses they and many
people
>>>> are not warned
>>>> about ... and what is really happening, . Many in NE  and other areas

>>>> of
>>>> the world are sitting ducks to the consequences from toxic air... and
>>>> while many are busy buying home
>>>> improvements because they see others like them en mass they assume
>>>> everything is great and if they don't hear the news complain they
think
>>>> they are treated equally like other people in the US. and are 
>>>> protected.
>>>> NOTHING can be further then the truth!!!!. NOT ...call it
>>>> global warming, more co2 and more cars and policy makers who are paid
>>>> off, whatever, the reasons,  those most affected by pollution and
>>>> overall consequences on their health have little warning by
politicians
>>>> and an epa who incredibly enough has set up a measuring system that
is
>>>> suppose to monitor and protect people but defaults to wrong values
and
>>>> doesn't go after states and polluters that constantly go past their
own
>>>> threshold for danger...>>> Harvard
>>>> Professor Schwartz said, the NE is going to have one of the worse
>>>> pollution problems in the entire world... You know what our news
people
>>>> call warning level air? Beautifiul  (really in our local stations)
>>>> because they know only a small percent
>>>> of people left here mostly immigrants get their news from the
internet
>>>> or
>>>> real links..and its better to lie and control the air waves and pump
>>>> meds
>>>> instead of telling people the truth. This and our role models from
gov
>>>> and politicians who dont't protect spell breakdown in society where
>>>> people can't trust many different things in their lives. People break
>>>> and
>>>> some don't know why. We have one in six on disability millions
addicted
>>>> to drugs and alcohol and we often have more violence from crime then 
>>>> any
>>>> war going on overseas.. Everyday our
>>>> pollution  and air quality is worse then 75 percent of Us but even 
>>>> thats
>>>> not as important as much as quantifying at which point the quality of
>>>> air
>>>> causes illness . I want to see how that plays out in
>>>> consequences and victims of people in this area, who are  paying
energy
>>>> and Arabs more money then
>>>> everything in their life combined only to be poisoned from the 
>>>> pollution
>>>> and lost health these same companies do little to clean up after they
>>>> make record profits and pay off politicians. The
>>>> toxic afteraffects often chooses its victims and some people no
matter
>>>> how well intentioned can't escape and fail to violence and ill
health.
>>>> .Many people in the US today are simply disappointed with others ,
with
>>>> true intent, with care and with level of deception and violence and
>>>> disparity betwen rich and poor. Two years ago we were paying 9
oranges
>>>> for a dollar now its more like one orange for a dollar.
>> Many people live with >>
>>>> >  Weeks of close to or at warning level air and . Months of  so
called
>>>> > MODERATE air practially
>>>> > without one or two full good days of air  and it seems to be
getting
>>>> > incredibly worse  for those areas most  affected The percentages of
>>>> > full good air days keeps lessening.
>>>> > The impact of not having clean air for kids and children and adults
>>>> > goes unconcerned by press in the US yets its very very important.
The
>>>> > press does not speak for individuals who ask hard questions. The
>>>> > people
>>>> > are virtually ignroed.
>>
>>
>>>> > Why politicians are paid off,and only
>>>> > millionaires get elected to office. Energy companies and pharmacies
>>>> > want
>>>> > to see you poisoned.. All this spells jobs and control and profits 
>>>> > for
>>>> > the richest percent at your families expense..The largest
conspiracy
>>>> > to
>>>> > kill and make ill from energy diesel and pollution without policy
>>>> > makers
>>>> > warning people or protecting those in harms way is fully underway
in
>>>> > NE,, the liberals and NE coast states are getting poisoned.. The
>>>> > studies that show
>>>> > just moderate amounts cause illness is somehow ,  missed by 
>>>> > politicans
>>>> > and media .What kind of people who are educated and given the
choices
>>>> > as politicians and reporters choose to not go over the variables? 
>>>> > What
>>>> > kind of people
>>>> > chooses to live in this mess ? Not many who are intelligent enough
to
>>>> > protect their families health thats for sure and many have no one
>>>> > warning them of the danges... (and for great reasons.) Philly and
>>>> > other east coast cities does
>>>> > have
>>>> > some good things but without doing anything about crime and the
price
>>>> > paid by not catching the bad guy and having so much of it in our 
>>>> > area,
>>>> > and pollution
>>>> > and the fear , and the pollution and the families having nothing to
>>>> > look
>>>> > forward  to except find out who was murdered near them ,, or who
has
>>>> > to go to a medical clinic and when,. What kind of person decides to
>>>> > stay or can constantly get
>>>> > past these negatives assuming they care about health and long life 
>>>> > and
>>>> > with good people? Not many and who is left after awhile , people
who
>>>> > want to cause harm and killers and people living in fear and
>>>> > pollution, and eventually knowingly!
>>
>>> How can .this be  a good life?  You have to be high or want to be
>>> high to accept this in this area., I even think the attitudes and
>>> perceptions and values about what is important is different between 
>>> clean
>>> air places and polluted. places. On almost every level from education
to
>>> crime to health , societies consequences from high pollution and
levels
>>> of achievment are compromised .One should see my black air filter and
>>> thousand of bottle of pills I need to jst breathe if my assertions
isn't
>>> true,before you call my assertions exaggerations. I am ready to go to
>>> trail to take policy makers and polluters to court for allowing to
kill
>>> and harm so many yet it goes on.. daily with kids and children and
>>> families set up to be less then others thru no fault of their
>>> choices.Many people can't afford to move.
>>>>
>>>> In something I can't believe,, or I would call a nightmare or city of
>>>> the
>>>> dead,  the level of blackness on my air filter
>>>> from one month of air that seldom reached good has to be seen to be
>>>> believed and for people to breathe this level and complain about me
>>>> instead shows why we lose population and have worse crime, murders
and
>>>> pollution in some categories.
>> To think that
>>>> people and children of families who know no better or are not warned
>>>> have to breathe this air for years and are not protected is
>>>> almost unbelievable. If your objective and your not into name
>>>> calling and you love your family you would be amazed at what this air
>>>> in this city brings your family, I have the experience, and  I have 
>>>> seen
>>>> the
>>>> links , and I have rationalizeed the consequences  of living here
>>>> and I am suggesting and pleading for families who are sane to leave 
>>>> now.
>>>> Don't be the only sane person who isn't taking drugs, drinking , 
>>>> boozing
>>>> ,
>>>> smoking or planning to kill or rob someone on your street..Don't be
the
>>>> only person who isn't a victim of crime or ill health!  After all
>>>> assumung you don't do all that , you can't expect people who are
smart
>>>> to
>>>> want to live here with air that has caused the most asthma med
>>>> prescriptions in any US city and number of deaths . With air that is
>>>> stagnate and lethal and with consequences that will completely take
you
>>>> out with illness before your time when the consistent pollution adds
up
>>>> in your families lungs.. Other cities people live in clean air
>>>> often and people get out and are happier.... Here its a daily
struggle
>>>> to
>>>> exist and who in the heck can blame the people? The politicians and
>>>> media
>>>> and lawyers who couldn't add up the asssociation has left this city
>>>> without sane and smart professionals who desire to better it. Instead

>>>> we
>>>> are left with more and more dysfunctional  people out for themselves 
>>>> who
>>>> are meanspirited and often dont' know why and those who are denial.
>>
>> who know no better
>>>> because govt and media refused to protect people.  Today code red,
day
>>>> before orange rated air , every day without good air is almost too
>>>> firghtening to assume someone has studied it... Less qualities has
>>>> destroyed people.
>>> Many on east coast get commerical after commercial for meds and
>>> hosptials and clinics and studies and power chairs and why not? What
>>> is left good to look forward to when you get up and you have no good
>>> air to breathe or make you healthy? This is akin to a small 9/11 or
>>> holocuast.
>>>>
>>> I invite any interested politician or movie star
>>>> to see what is happening here. Its more then just birds dying, bees
>>>> dying, trees dying, higer co2, most asthma, commercial after
>>>> commerical for health care, almost no good days of air anymore..in
>>>> philadelphia we only had one full day of clean air close to 45 days (
>>>> maybe one) . its a
>>>> poisoning,
>>>> with more depression and asthma and more and more violence then
almost
>>>> any place in N. hemisphere.
>> . Its one
>>>> of
>>>> the worse places to ever live and one day realize your life is over
>>>> after being with mean spirited people and paying more and more to
>>>> groups
>>>> set up  to take advantage of you after your
>>>> poisoned, hospitals and clinics and pharmacies and media who takes
the
>>>> ads
>>>> from medical care and energy companies and car and diesel companies..
>>>> One
>>>> only has to
>>>> conclude what the effects are from people breathing this every
month.I
>>>> dare comparisons if you don't want to believe me or all the links i
>>>> left.
>>>> Look around , get smart. see how few athletes from this area are in 
>>>> long
>>>> distance top ten, see how few conditioned athletes train here or want

>>>> to
>>>> play here. Most play and leave and for good reason. .See all the
people
>>>> who are sick or need asthma meds in this area, compare the lung
>>>> fucntion,,the stress tests between people in clean air and here   , 
>>>> look
>>>> at the links this city is
>>>> a dead zone. No taxes can undo your lost health or productivity.
>>>
>>>> I am absolutely sure people and kids are losing their life often
>>>> without any choices way more then people who are allowed clean air.
Is
>>>> this what the constitution encourages? Protection from undue harm/? 
I
>>>> don't think so
>>>>
>>>> the only place practically I am allowed my right to freedom of speech
>>>> is on craigs list and some select newsgroup servers like Google but 
>>>> stay
>>>> tuned that may change..  other places kicked me off their site or 
>>>> turned
>>>> me away from newsgroups. Like yahoo which elminated message boards
>>>> after news stories,... the powers that be often don't like to hear
>>>> free speech , and freedom of expression based on reality because
power
>>>> depends on control and power to convince even if its wrong. advice We

>>>> ae
>>>> suppose to be fighting for others tohave freedom of expression, while
>>>> often we have anything but..with politicians paid off and reporters
>>>> coopted by larger bucks who ignroe suffereing
>> .what  hypocrisy but its worse then that, we
>>>> are murdering our own citizens and laywers and researchers and media
is
>>>> silent.. I depend on people to pass
>>>> this around please!!! IPlease email this to others.  am not 
>>>> exaggerating
>>>> when I say the air in this
>>>> region is almost like breathing very dangerous air or toxic
substances
>>>> every day or every other day. More and more days here especially on
>>>> east coast people in our area are living in conditions that get less
>>>> and less clean air and more and more air close warning level air.
Call
>>>> it
>>>> global warming , call it co 2 demand to see the differences in health
>>>> after time!!
>> , I call it just so darn pollutied its not fair. Not only
>>>>> You
>>>> only have to have "moderate" rated air to begin seeing studies
showing
>>>> damage and harm . The Major media and politicians ignore it and worse
>>>> try to ignore those that care to do more about it  or complain.. Some
>>>> weather
>>>> people even call the air beautiful when very polluted. Go to epa
>>>> website airnow to monitor the air for yourself and to see another
>>>> horrible stat for phil, how often our children have to live in
>>>> this.compared to others. The people with clean air, get great money
for
>>>> their houses they worked hard for, they get clean air, healthier
lives
>>>> and
>>>> if comparisons could be had many many benefits compared to the hate, 
>>>> and
>>>> animosity and drug gangs and people going to one doctor to another 
>>>> while
>>>> home prices are not high and people are moving. My friend was in San
>>>> Francisco and they hardly saw one sign to move. Here there are 
>>>> thousands
>>>> of homes for sale. Maybe someone is listening to me. What type of 
>>>> person
>>>> buys a home after all this is for them? This city is the living of
the
>>>> dead.
>>>> More and more our families are exposed to fewer and fewer days of
>>>> clean air with my contention that the consequences are ignored, not
>>>> because the damage is minimal but because the damage might scare
>>>> people out of here / and people won't buy their drugs  and homes
.Liars
>>>> are our new role models
>> The
>>>> consquences besides just lousy heavy air, is underminding other
things
>>>> like optimism and health in the process. and dare I suggest truth and
>>>> reinforcing the good things that made our country great? Now its
about
>>>> lies deceptions an control and even murder.
>> Our press is coopted by
>>>> pharmacy industry and our media are paid whores for people who allow
>>>> you to get poisoned and only accept millions of dollars in ads for
>>>> drugs and doctors and hosptials to treat you after your poisoned.-
not
>>>> why
>>>> you need the meds.  people need it more
>>>> here then anyplace in the US .No facts about pollution or our cities
>>>> most depression and asthma ratings ...or warning you about the level
>>>> of the pollutants in air or its affects but we can be told about
Paris
>>>> hilton all day.
>> . Remember that before you say hi to these
>>>> people in media and politicians, grill them on the effects of
pollution
>>>> for your children and why the smartest and best always choose clean
>>>> air cities and why we are losing the best and brightest to illegals
and
>>>> immigrants and dysfunctional people  and pollutiona and crime.
>> .. The  clean air cities are striving,
>>>> many here are being left behind
>>>> in education, in run down crime and polluted streets and IN FEAR or
in
>>>> cahoots with others in crime. . My contention is even people who 
>>>> realize
>>>> what is happening can't escape or change and unlike cig smoke you
can't
>>>> decide not to get this pollution, your locked in
>>
>>> . Who do you think
>>>> are the ones who are left if nothing is done to corect things ? The
>>>> people
>>>> who strive on
>>>> dysfunction and smoking and drugs and dont' care about things
ordinary
>>>> Americans care about or those too old or sick to do anything about
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>> (can you follow these links , if not cut and
>>>>
paste)http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-...
>>>>
>>>> I can go on and on including a newer study that shows the harm from
>>>>  If your not part of the solution your part of the problem.
>>>> I want to hand out flyers, and need volunteers to help print out
>>>> flyers and to distribute them. contact me at
>>>> mcsantpollut...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> We are especially living in condtions with soot and fine particulate
>>>> pollution from coal out west,  those links before this line, point
out
>>>> are
>>>> so dangerous. We are
>>>> living in conditions where we  are smoking an equivalent of a  pack
of
>>>> cigarettes from
>>>> just breathin the air..... yet nothing is done. epa is coopted by
>>>> energy and republicans get record earnings and don't care about its
own
>>>> citizens.. while up to 60,000 die. I contend of most major cancers
and
>>>> heart disease and ...
>>>> illness, pollution is a contributing factor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > pass this on to as many people on the east coast .It seems like if
>>>> > scientists, researchers, gov, did
>>>> > comparisons between peoples
>>>> > health based on the
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>>> Ever see a reporter ask Bush why he is not concerned about rules
>>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> make
>>>> >>>> polluters and energy earn more money while many people suffer
and
>>>> >>>> are
>>>> >>>> not
>>>> >>>> allowed to sue or can't move? Ever see a reporter ask Bush if we
>>>> >>>> could
>>>> >>>> see a penny fon the
>>>> >>>> ground rom space in the 1960s how we can't defeat or track a
group
>>>> >>>> of
>>>> >>>> terrorists who don't have planes or coordinated communication
>>>> >>>> system?
>>>> >>>> Ever see a reporter ask if we are worried about terrorists why
do
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> allow
>>>> >>>> so many people from terrorist countries into this country?
>>>> >>>> Discrimination
>>>> >>>> is not
>>>> >>>> good, but when only those people are a threat to blow up people
>>>> >>>> enmass,
>>>> >>>> and constantly conspire to try, one
>>>> >>>> might ask why millions or close are allowed to come over and
then
>>>> >>>> worry
>>>> >>>> afterwards of the potential danger?
>>>> >>>> You think there are no conspiracies? Yahoo took the message
boards
>>>> >>>> off
>>>> >>>> because too much free information , that which we tell other
>>>> >>>> countries
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> have is not really prudent. I was on a blog about my city and
when
>>>> >>>> I
>>>> >>>> talked
>>>> >>>> about pollution I was off.. There goes the hypocrisy of
freedom.of
>>>> >>>> speech.
>>>> >>>> You think reporters would talk about pollution, the descrepency
>>>> >>>> between
>>>> >>>> rich
>>>> >>>> and poor, the tens of thousands who are murdered and nothing
much
>>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> ever
>>>> >>>> done about it or why its never a coordinated effort to do more
>>>> >>>> about
>>>> >>>> yet
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> criticize those countries that have people killing each other
>>>> >>>> there?
>>>> >>>> You don't believe in conspiracies ?
>>>> >>>> Since I lost my health to pollution, I had my real estate taxes
go
>>>> >>>> up,
>>>> >>>> had
>>>> >>>> my
>>>> >>>> taxes reviewed by Irs and made to pay money although we are
>>>> >>>> apealling,
>>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> pay more money to treat conditions that are not my fault without
>>>> >>>> any
>>>> >>>> free
>>>> >>>> press to go over why?
>>>> >>>> You don't believe in conspiracies in the US are you sure?
>>>> >>>> Incidentally in case you were not aware,, yahoo often knew what 
>>>> >>>> you
>>>> >>>> were
>>>> >>>> writing before you even sent it and could adequately block it if

>>>> >>>> it
>>>> >>>> went
>>>> >>>> against govt or own rules for whatever the hell reason!!!!!
Thats
>>>> >>>> how
>>>> >>>> advanced intelligence is now but I am sure your not going to
>>>> >>>> believe
>>>> >>>> that... The only two sites that I know where there is no
>>>> >>>> censureship
>>>> >>>> so far  or
>>>> >>>> very little is craigs list and news groups.. Talk about freedom!
>>>>
>>>> >>>>In  There are many links
>>>> >>>>between
>>>> >>>>pollution and harm and some places are getting much more of this
>>>> >>>>toxic
>>>> >>>>mess
>>>> >>>>then others and nothing is being told to the people affected  or
>>>> >>>>nothing more is
>>>> >>>>being done to diminish it in those areas. Shameful! we have fears
>>>> >>>>murders, sirens and asthma meds lower housing costs and
politicians
>>>> >>>>and morgues and victims and  people who don't care... getting
high
>>>> >>>>and
>>>> >>>>in denial...
>>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------­------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>
>>>> >> Remember Philly gets more days of this then most everyone and you
>>>> >> wonder
>>>> >> if
>>>> > your not being set up by your own govt and they are not killing
you?
>>>>
>>>> >http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>
>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>>
>>>> >> Many people  think  illness mysteriously picked our
>>>> >>> citizens...or family by chance. Nothing can be so wrong... as if 
>>>> >>> its
>>>> >>> something inherindtly wrong with them.. Too bad
>>>> >>> they will never be able to sue the people that caused them this
>>>> >>> illness and lost health.. Its
>>>> >>> another to see the F rated air by American Cancer Association and

>>>> >>> no
>>>> >>> one do anything. Its another
>>>> >>> thing to see commercial after commercial for hospitals , and
>>>> >>> nebulizers
>>>> >>> offering free all in one packaging to your door, drugs to treat
>>>> >>> asthma,
>>>> >>> prescriptions for heart disease and cancer and not a concern or
>>>> >>> wonder
>>>> >>> why
>>>> >>> people need them or how much more compared to other places or
what
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>> do about it.. Its another to
>>>> >>> see one in five in area kids need asthma meds so early This is
the
>>>> >>> biggest
>>>> >>> mass poisoning going on in the US and .. congress and no one
can't
>>>> >>> stop
>>>> >>> this murder? Its one thing to have links and ask for more studies
>>>> >>> when
>>>> >>> the
>>>> >>> polluters don't have to worry cause the President makes special
>>>> >>> rules
>>>> >>> for
>>>> >>> them? >> >> ". Where the dumb and poor or working class in some
>>>> >>>> cities get the worse air, most pollution
>>>> >>>> and illness and thats the status Quo for millions of people. The
>>>> >>>> most
>>>> >>>> vulnerable or people who are not aware  or can't protect 
>>>> >>>> themselves
>>>> >>>> are allowed to get murdered and
>>>> >>>> they
>>>> >>>> have to pay for it to corporations who get away with murdering
you
>>>> >>>> because they can and have others in place to further capitalize
>>>> >>>> after
>>>> >>>> they poison you like TV news , hospitals and pharmacies. . Sorry
>>>> >>>> you
>>>> >>>> will have to move and sell your home and quit
>>>> >>>> your job if you don't like it!!!!!!!  If billionairs decide to
>>>> >>>> murder
>>>> >>>> you, or get special rules. to allow you to inhale pollution  and
>>>> >>>> make
>>>> >>>> it where you can't sue us, and you pay
>>>> >>>> for your poisoning cause you don't
>>>> >>>> know or refuse to move. This is your fault? ????   Where are the
>>>> >>>> lawyers?
>>>> >>>> why would you think if they can go over faulty car seat recalls
>>>> >>>> they
>>>> >>>> wouldn't publish connections between pollution and tens of
>>>> >>>> thousands
>>>> >>>> of
>>>> >>>> deaths from it in US? where what degree, how? Ask yourself that
>>>> >>>> question
>>>> >>>> in US Now really.! Tell others write to Congress This is really
>>>> >>>> really
>>>> >>>> happening.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> when everything else is the same like diet and shelter and
health
>>>> >>>>> care
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> differences I attest between longer life and better health is
air
>>>> >>>>> pollution.
>>>> >>>>> How many people know its not necessarily anyones illness that
>>>> >>>>> causes
>>>> >>>>> their
>>>> >>>>> expenses. Its gov policies that know more nOW about the affects

>>>> >>>>> of
>>>> >>>>> particulates, analyzes it and even warns people and measures
>>>> >>>>> pollution  on
>>>> >>>>> EPA website  but does nothing to
>>>> >>>>> stop
>>>> >>>>> it
>>>> >>>>> now. This is way more important then terrorists. This is way
more
>>>> >>>>> likely
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> affect Americans now, then terrorists and nothing is done to
stop
>>>> >>>>> it
>>>> >>>>> faster.
>>>> >>>>> People will lose their life simply because corporations need to
>>>> >>>>> make
>>>> >>>>> a
>>>> >>>>> profit and if tv media doesn't tell you they can get away with 
>>>> >>>>> it.
>>>> >>>>> please write me at mcsantipollution...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Congress needs to act now, not in ten years  This is mass
>>>> >>>>>> poisoning going on in our
>>>> >>>>>> society,
>>>> >>>>>> whether its because of global warming or more gasses but its
>>>> >>>>>> happening.
>>>> >>>>>> There are many other links , . This is your life there is no
>>>> >>>>>> going
>>>> >>>>>> back
>>>> >>>>>> and in state courts the anti polluters have won but its not
>>>> >>>>>> enough.
>>>> >>>>>> In
>>>> >>>>>> Supreme Court which is swayed by Republicans they are going to
>>>> >>>>>> tackle
>>>> >>>>>> issue
>>>> >>>>>> whether polluters can be sued. Why they get special protection
>>>> >>>>>> only
>>>> >>>>>> shows
>>>> >>>>>> what damage they are allowed to do and make billions at same
>>>> >>>>>> time.
>>>> >>>>>> Republicans and Bush have sabotaged findings by our own epa to
>>>> >>>>>> help
>>>> >>>>>> dissipate our most ardent polluters.. Thus the pollution that
>>>> >>>>>> they
>>>> >>>>>> call
>>>> >>>>>> moderate will sicken millions of people. This the press
doesn't
>>>> >>>>>> care
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> tell
>>>> >>>>>> you about. This is mass poisoning , because we know better. I
>>>> >>>>>> realize
>>>> >>>>>> when
>>>> >>>>>> they say Global warming, its a buzz word for not doing
anything
>>>> >>>>>> about
>>>> >>>>>> pollution. but still acknowledging the findings of some
experts
>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>> its
>>>> >>>>>> ramifications of more gasses. Tell others. protect your
family.
>>>> >>>>>> Its
>>>> >>>>>> probably
>>>> >>>>>> too late for me, this is one of the most important issues in 
>>>> >>>>>> your
>>>> >>>>>> life,
>>>> >>>>>> not
>>>> >>>>>> taxes, not even education. this is your families health, where
>>>> >>>>>> they
>>>> >>>>>> tell
>>>> >>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>> people are living longer but in what condition and IN ONLY
>>>> >>>>>> certain
>>>> >>>>>> areas...
>>>> >>>>>> From Philadelphia to Sandy Hook, from Se to Newark, many days
>>>> >>>>>> more
>>>> >>>>>> then
>>>> >>>>>> most, you get particulates that kill every cell in your body
>>>> >>>>>> faster.
>>>> >>>>>> Please tell your families to be concerned about this, to write
>>>> >>>>>> Congress
>>>> >>>>>> and Newsmedia to demand that they go over this issue
>>>> >>>>>>The people who set these policies, thinks the costs of killing
>>>> >>>>>>people
>>>> >>>>>>is
>>>> >>>>>>worth the extra earnings. This kind of warped value systems
>>>> >>>>>>filters
>>>> >>>>>>down
>>>> >>>>>>in
>>>> >>>>>>our value system and we ultimately lose our ability to do
better
>>>> >>>>>>and
>>>> >>>>>>rationalize.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreases...
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR200...
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15196924/
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/ap_on_sc/un_greenhouse_gases
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> The TV NEWS ignore it because they don't want to scare people
and
>>>> >>>>> they
>>>> >>>>> don't want to lose advertising from Hospitals and phamracies
>>>> >>>> So before you trust tv to tell you the truth think again.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> This is our value system gone amouck. there is a billboard,,
that
>>>> >>>>> asks if you can sell sand to a camer and ice to an eskimo.. on 
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> presumption that people don't care about facts they care about
>>>> >>>>> perceptions and if your good at deceiving thats what companies
>>>> >>>>> want.
>>>> >>>>> What kind of freedom or concern or values does this mentality
>>>> >>>>> teach?
>>>> >>>>> Each time we do and hire and decide to do the wrong thing, our
>>>> >>>>> society I believe , becomes less valuable and not able to be as
>>>> >>>>> good
>>>> >>>>> as before we decide to do the wrong things. So you may override

>>>> >>>>> my
>>>> >>>>> posts and keep me from airing my complaints but in the long
run,
>>>> >>>>> truth and good things, will motivate the better competetor and
we
>>>> >>>>> will undermind ourselves thinking we built a better mouse trap 
>>>> >>>>> but
>>>> >>>>> all we are really doing is redefining another way to be
>>>> >>>>> dysfunctional. Why decide to chooose the wrong answer and
>>>> >>>>> substaniate after wards for control? I have been thrown off
>>>> >>>>> phillyblog.com and newsgroups for telling the truth. some
>>>> >>>>> democracy?
>>>
>>>
>>> Before you retire or live in NE read this and
>>>> send
>>>> to as many people as you know who may not be reading newsgroups....
>>>>
>>>> ask anyone past fifty the most important lessons they have learned in
>>>> life.
>>>> My mission is to tell anyone and everyone who wants to listen all I 
>>>> know
>>>> about air pollution and how and where to be safe for individuals and
>>>> families,
>> Our politicians want to wait till 2020 to get cleaner air, by then many

>> of
>> us will be dead with pollution being the main contributing factor and
no
>> mysterious time is up from God scenario needed.. or  walk for the cure
>> will
>> ever cure those harmed consistently from pollution especially if its
>> ignored
>> in our society by press and politicians. 2020 is bs...
>>>> write me at mcsantpollution@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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