pass this on to asIt seems like if they did comparisons between peoples
health based on the
>> type of pollution their cities get and everything else was the same
like
>> diet, the people who consistently get moderate or worse (not
>> good)pollution are in worse health for any number of
categories.Obviously
>> the ratings epa use is not adequate or worse blindly harming people by
>> making people feel moderate is not dangerous when in fact it VERY well
>> may
>> be causing people to lose their health faster. The conspiracy to allow
>> this to go on without adequately warning people or diminishing the
>> threat,
>> or showing such studies, or allowing harmed people to sue epa or
>> polluters
>> shows that a, there are millions of people that are not protected from
>> the
>> dangers of pollution in America, b, that the measures to reduce
pollution
>> are not matched by the extent of the damage relevant to potential
danger,
>> thus making the policy to lower pollution useless in some areas, and c,
>> and those unprotected people not only usually lose their health faster
in
>> any number of categories of ailments, but they then have to pay for
>> conditions that basically they are not responsible for getting and
>> usually
>> they can't sue . The media calls all this basically global warming and
>> energy reduction instead of the conspiracy to not allow rules to do
more
>> faster to protect them equally like others that don't get this
pollution
>> are protected. Why don't the media do more? Because they are eagerly
>> taking the money from the companies and pharmacies that treat you after
>> people are poisoned, like from cancer clinics and heart hospitals and
old
>> age homes, and pharmaceuticals especially for asthma and nebulizers and
>> power chairs. Its almost surreal to listen to the lies the news casters
>> call beautiful days of good air.Yes sometimes they say gorgeous and
good
>> air when the particulate rates are approaching warning level. This is
the
>> lies and protection that begets big money while politicians remain
>> silent.
>
>
>
>
>>> Ever see a reporter ask Bush why he is not concerned about rules
that
>>> make
>>> polluters and energy earn more money while many people suffer and are
>>> not
>>> allowed to sue or can't move? Ever see a reporter ask Bush if we
could
>>> see a penny fon the
>>> ground rom space in the 1960s how we can't defeat or track a group of
>>> terrorists who don't have planes or coordinated communication system?
>>> Ever see a reporter ask if we are worried about terrorists why do we
>>> allow
>>> so many people from terrorist countries into this country?
>>> Discrimination
>>> is not
>>> good, but when only those people are a threat to blow up people
enmass,
>>> and constantly conspire to try, one
>>> might ask why millions or close are allowed to come over and then
worry
>>> afterwards of the potential danger?
>>> You think there are no conspiracies? Yahoo took the message boards off
>>> because too much free information , that which we tell other countries
>>> to
>>> have is not really prudent. I was on a blog about my city and when I
>>> talked
>>> about pollution I was off.. There goes the hypocrisy of freedom.of
>>> speech.
>>> You think reporters would talk about pollution, the descrepency
between
>>> rich
>>> and poor, the tens of thousands who are murdered and nothing much is
>>> ever
>>> done about it or why its never a coordinated effort to do more about
yet
>>> we
>>> criticize those countries that have people killing each other there?
>>> You don't believe in conspiracies ?
>>> Since I lost my health to pollution, I had my real estate taxes go up,
>>> had
>>> my
>>> taxes reviewed by Irs and made to pay money although we are apealling,
>>> and
>>> pay more money to treat conditions that are not my fault without any
>>> free
>>> press to go over why?
>>> You don't believe in conspiracies in the US are you sure?
>>> Incidentally in case you were not aware,, yahoo often knew what you
were
>>> writing before you even sent it and could adequately block it if it
went
>>> against govt or own rules for whatever the hell reason!!!!! Thats how
>>> advanced intelligence is now but I am sure your not going to believe
>>> that... The only two sites that I know where there is no censureship
or
>>> very little is craigs list and news groups.. Talk about freedom!
>>>
>>>
>>>In case you need proof pollution harms get statiscians backed up by
other
>>>professional the comparisons of health and lung function and even
stress
>>>test levels between people having to breathe pollution and those that
>>>don't. I have and so often the differences are ignored and families are
>>>allowing toxic levels into their life because they foolishly believe
gov
>>>will and are protecting them and they are not. There are many links
>>>between
>>>pollution and harm and some places are getting much more of this toxic
>>>mess
>>>then others and nothing is being told to the people or nothing more is
>>>being done to diminish it in those areas. Shameful!
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
> Remember Philly gets more days of this then most everyone and you wonder
> if
your not being set up by your own govt and they are not killing you?
http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
> Its one thing to feel the air as heavy. It one thing to see the trees
>> falling down. Its another to have hard time breathin. Its another to
>> connect the dots and see what pollution has and is doing to people in
>> this
>> area . On good air days I see people happy , out and about, its totally
>> refreshing. On the majority of bad air days I see no one in parks, no
>> happiness, people just exist. This is just my reaction. On the other
hand
>> allot of my assertions have more proof.
>> compared to other areas.. To see relatives suffer and lose their
health
>> especially on bad air days and others and they simply think its because
>> of
>> some illness not because of particulates is especially depressing, in
>> fact
>> very much so.. They think its something inherindtly wrong with them.
Its
>> another to see the F ratings by American Cancer Association. Its
another
>> thing to see commercial after commercial for hospitals , and nebulizers
>> offering free all in one packaging to your door, drugs to treat asthma,
>> prescriptions for heart disease and cancer and not a concern or wonder
>> why
>> people need them or how much so compared to other places . Its another
to
>> see one in five in area kids need asthma meds so early This is the
>> biggest
>> mass poisoning going on in the US and .. congress and no one can't stop
>> this murder? Its one thing to have links and ask for more studies when
>> the
>> polluters don't have to worry cause the President makes special rules
for
>> them? What is going on here? Being poisoned is the American WAY. Tell
>> everyone you know this is really happening. in USA. When you lose your
>> health there is no going back. I assert we don't have to live this way
if
>> in this day and age in the greatest country in the world to people who
>> thru no fault of themselves will have to suffer greatly and I am making
>> that assertion , many people will suffer greatly in direct proportion
to
>> the degree of pollution they are made to get.
>
> "mcs" <mcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:xJE4h.2112$9t4.1810@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> why because they can, they hve role models our leaders
>>> It seems like this exact science where they make you pay for your life
>>> by
>>> charging you fifty cents to eat sodium laden food and then charge you
>>> $1.50
>>> to buy the same can of soup without salt. , that same mentality hs
>>> filtered
>>> down to pollution. Where the dumb and poor or working class in some
>>> cities get the worse air, most pollution
>>> and illness and thats the status Quo for millions of people. The most
>>> vulnerable or people who are not aware are allowed to get murdered and
>>> they
>>> have to pay for it to corporations who get away with murdering you
>>> because they can and have others in place to further capitalize after
>>> they poison you like TV news , hospitals and pharmacies. . Sorry you
>>> will have to move and sell your home and quit
>>> your job to get out of the way from our poisons because we can get
>>> special
>>> treatment to poison you and make it where you can't sue us, and you
pay
>>> for your poisoning cause you don't
>>> know or refuse to move. This is your fault? Where are the lawyers?
>>> why would you think if they can go over faulty car seat recalls they
>>> wouldn't publish connections between pollution and tens of thousands
of
>>> deaths from it in US? Ask yourself that question
>>> in US Now really. Tell others write to Congress This is really really
>>> happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>> when everything else is the same like diet and shelter and health
care
>>>> the
>>>> differences I attest between longer life and better health is air
>>>> pollution.
>>>> How many people know its not necessarily anyones illness that causes
>>>> their
>>>> expenses. Its gov policies that know more nOW about the affects of
>>>> particulates, analyzes it and even warns people but does nothing to
>>>> stop
>>>> it
>>>> now. This is way more important then terrorists. This is way more
>>>> likely
>>>> to
>>>> affect Americans now, then terrorists and nothing is done to stop it
>>>> faster.
>>>> People will lose their life simply because corporations need to make
a
>>>> profit and if tv media doesn't tell you they can get away with it.
>>>> please write me at mcsantipollution@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "mcs" <mcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> Newsgroups: alt.lawyers,ca.politics,ny.politics.,nj.politics
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:05 AM
>>>> Subject: People in NE SE being poisoned by Particulates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Congress needs to act now, not in ten years , I dare anyone to
compare
>>>>> health stats between the most polluted areas or moderate polluted
>>>>> areas
>>>>> versus clean areas of the country . You are being poisoned, Yahoo,
at
>>>>> times
>>>>> blocks my messages, News media completely ignores all connections to
>>>>> pollutions damage , while your family often has ( get this ) almost
>>>>> twice
>>>>> the cancer rates and twic the heart disease rates, where the
hospitals
>>>>> are
>>>>> in friendzy to get your business spending tens of millions of
dollars
>>>>> for
>>>>> heart treatment ads on tv and newspapers and cancer treatment but
MUM
>>>>> why you might need them more
>>>>> then in other places. This is mass poisoning going on in our
society,
>>>>> whether its because of global warming or more gasses but its
>>>>> happening.
>>>>> There are many other links , I desperate to tell as many as you as
>>>>> possible,
>>>>> the best athletes in the world, the richest know all this, its
common
>>>>> knowledge, the working class has to pay for damages brough on by big
>>>>> business who would literally kill you then to tell you the truth or
do
>>>>> more
>>>>> now to help negate the polluters. This is your life there is no
going
>>>>> back
>>>>> and in state courts the anti polluters have won but its not enough.
In
>>>>> Supreme Court which is swayed by Republicans they are going to
tackle
>>>>> issue
>>>>> whether polluters can be sued. Why they get special protection only
>>>>> shows
>>>>> what damage they are allowed to do and make billions at same time.
>>>>> Republicans and Bush have sabotaged findings by our own epa to help
>>>>> dissipate our most ardent polluters.. Thus the pollution that they
>>>>> call
>>>>> moderate will sicken millions of people. This the press doesn't care
>>>>> to
>>>>> tell
>>>>> you about. This is mass poisoning , because we know better. I
realize
>>>>> when
>>>>> they say Global warming, its a buzz word for not doing anything
about
>>>>> pollution. but still acknowledging the findings of some experts of
its
>>>>> ramifications of more gasses. Tell others. protect your family. Its
>>>>> probably
>>>>> too late for me, this is one of the most important issues in your
>>>>> life,
>>>>> not
>>>>> taxes, not even education. this is your families health, where they
>>>>> tell
>>>>> you
>>>>> people are living longer but in what condition and IN ONLY certain
>>>>> areas...
>>>>> From Philadelphia to Sandy Hook, from Se to Newark, many days more
>>>>> then
>>>>> most, you get particulates that kill every cell in your body faster.
>>>>> Please tell your families to be concerned about this, to write
>>>>> Congress
>>>>> and Newsmedia to demand that they go over this issue
>>>>>The people who set these policies, thinks the costs of killing people
>>>>>is
>>>>>worth the extra earnings. This kind of warped value systems filters
>>>>>down
>>>>>in
>>>>>our value system and we ultimately lose our ability to do better and
>>>>>rationalize.
>>>>
>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.html
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15196924/
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061103/ap_on_sc/un_greenhouse_gases
>>>>
>>>> The TV NEWS ignore it because they don't want to scare people and
>>>> they
>>>> don't want to lose advertising from Hospitals and phamracies
>>> So before you trust tv to tell you the truth think again.
>>>
>>>> This is our value system gone amouck
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally when they say people are living longer and richer its not
always
>>> true. They take the total picture and sum it up. individual states and
>>> cities are being bombarded with pollutants and may I suggest the rate
of
>>> poisoning if it could be proved on a ration basis is more now then
five
>>> years ago in some areas on NE, thats a huge assertion but one I think
>>> honestly is accurate.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> many people as you can if you believe in freedom


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