by Dennis <nwdrs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jul 17, 2006 at 04:15 PM
There has been an extreme amount of ignorance on both sides in this
thread. One could make the arguement that France is ruled by the mob -
the government doesnt listen to the "people" but strives to survive. The
US has in the past taken the stance that we are part of the world and
what helps the world helps us. Best example is the Marshall plan that
rebuilt Europe. The bi-product was the benefit to the US so your
thinking is inverted. The US has had success: Germany and Japan. An
arguement can be made for all of Eastern Europe but it would be
balanced by the neglect of Hungary in 1956 and Czechslovakia in 1968.
Vietnam we shared with the French. The middle east as a problem was
created by Englan/France at the end of WWI. As to the sorting out of
messes by the rest of the world - which ones? We havent seen any
leader****p out of Europe.
I find it impossible to defend the current state of our politics but on
balance our record is much better than France. Our revolution didnt end
in a blood bath and dictator****p.
Pier Danone wrote:
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> You know very little about France then. If they don't like something the
bring
> the country to a standstill and stand up to it and make their government
listen.
> That takes balls. The government listens to and responds to it's people.
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> My arse. The USA never does anything for the benefit of anyone else.
Should
> there be a benefit to another nation, it's a bi-product.
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> "Yep, all of the screwed-up third world post colonial "nations" say
> hi. Europe really did a bang-up job there."
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> And would you like to highlight some US success at all?
> Vietnam? Cuba? Iraq? Afghanistan?
> Always getting your arses kicked - then leave a mess for the rest of the
world
> to sort out.
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